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		<title>Comment on Expanding a ZFS pool by Itsacon</title>
		<link>http://www.itsacon.net/computers/unix/expanding-a-zfs-pool/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 00:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jason: That is exactly what I&#039;m doing in this post: growing the &lt;em&gt;pool&lt;/em&gt; by adding another array to it. In &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itsacon.net/computers/unix/growing-a-zfs-pool/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this earlier post&lt;/a&gt;, I show how you can grow a pool by growing an array.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jason: That is exactly what I’m doing in this post: growing the <em>pool</em> by adding another array to it. In <a href="http://www.itsacon.net/computers/unix/growing-a-zfs-pool/" rel="nofollow">this earlier post</a>, I show how you can grow a pool by growing an array.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Expanding a ZFS pool by jason</title>
		<link>http://www.itsacon.net/computers/unix/expanding-a-zfs-pool/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re not growing an array by adding disks.  You are simply building an additional array.  The additional array is then added to your existing pool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re not growing an array by adding disks.  You are simply building an additional array.  The additional array is then added to your existing pool.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Replacing bad motherboard capacitors by hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.itsacon.net/computers/hardware/replacing-bad-motherboard-capacitors/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 16:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;sucking up hot solder by mouth is an option, but only if you film it and post it to youtube&quot;

You made me pee my pants - thank you! ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“sucking up hot solder by mouth is an option, but only if you film it and post it to youtube”</p>
<p>You made me pee my pants — thank you! ;-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Replacing bad motherboard capacitors by Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.itsacon.net/computers/hardware/replacing-bad-motherboard-capacitors/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post!]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Making sense of ‘Over the hills and far away’ by Itsacon</title>
		<link>http://www.itsacon.net/entertainment/music/making-sense-of-over-the-hills-and-far-away/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously, the song makes a bit more sense when put back in the times when adultery was still a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Letter&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;crime&lt;/a&gt;. The man protecting the cheating wife from persecution is a lot more logical then protecting her from a wanted divorce.

However, there are two problems with that interpretation:
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;- There still is the matter of the real murderer walking free because this bloke commits perjury.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;- I&#039;m pretty sure my version makes for a better movie :-)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, the song makes a bit more sense when put back in the times when adultery was still a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Letter" rel="nofollow">crime</a>. The man protecting the cheating wife from persecution is a lot more logical then protecting her from a wanted divorce.</p>
<p>However, there are two problems with that interpretation:</p>
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<li>- There still is the matter of the real murderer walking free because this bloke commits perjury.</li>
<li>- I’m pretty sure my version makes for a better movie :-)</li>
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		<title>Comment on Making sense of ‘Over the hills and far away’ by Fallingwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fallingwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always read this song similarly, but I never considered the woman to be implicated in the crime.

It seems to me this is happening in older times (though not before the invention of firearms, for obvious reasons), when being fedifragous carried a very heavy social price, especially for a woman and especially for a known one. Not that this stopped people from doing it, but everything was kept from the public eye.

The way I see it the woman in this story is a known person (high society and all that), who for any of a variety of reasons common in those awful times is locked into a marriage with our poor inmate&#039;s best friend.

Woman and Protagonist have an affair, fall in love. So-called best friend finds out, steals Protagonist&#039;s gun, performs some sort of heinous crime and dumps the gun at the place. Protagonist is visited by the friendly cops who take him away in cuffs, but because he&#039;s madly in love with Woman he doesn&#039;t offer his alibi, as doing so would expose her to widespread ridicule and shame, and he considers her honor more important than 10 years of his life. (Weird priorities, and all that.)

Perhaps he&#039;s also afraid that making the whole thing public could pressure the Best Friend into getting violent with her - though the fact that he&#039;s leaving her with a violent, disgruntled husband for a decade is no less worrying.

During his time in the slammer the woman sends him love letters (hopefully without Best Friend ever catching her) and continues her loveless marriage; when Protagonist is eventually freed he&#039;ll grab her and they&#039;ll run away, or so they at least hope.

Come to think of it, Protagonist might even want to enact some form of revenge over Best Friend - a framing and ten years behind bars tend to build up resentment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve always read this song similarly, but I never considered the woman to be implicated in the crime.</p>
<p>It seems to me this is happening in older times (though not before the invention of firearms, for obvious reasons), when being fedifragous carried a very heavy social price, especially for a woman and especially for a known one. Not that this stopped people from doing it, but everything was kept from the public eye.</p>
<p>The way I see it the woman in this story is a known person (high society and all that), who for any of a variety of reasons common in those awful times is locked into a marriage with our poor inmate’s best friend.</p>
<p>Woman and Protagonist have an affair, fall in love. So-called best friend finds out, steals Protagonist’s gun, performs some sort of heinous crime and dumps the gun at the place. Protagonist is visited by the friendly cops who take him away in cuffs, but because he’s madly in love with Woman he doesn’t offer his alibi, as doing so would expose her to widespread ridicule and shame, and he considers her honor more important than 10 years of his life. (Weird priorities, and all that.)</p>
<p>Perhaps he’s also afraid that making the whole thing public could pressure the Best Friend into getting violent with her — though the fact that he’s leaving her with a violent, disgruntled husband for a decade is no less worrying.</p>
<p>During his time in the slammer the woman sends him love letters (hopefully without Best Friend ever catching her) and continues her loveless marriage; when Protagonist is eventually freed he’ll grab her and they’ll run away, or so they at least hope.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, Protagonist might even want to enact some form of revenge over Best Friend — a framing and ten years behind bars tend to build up resentment.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Growing a ZFS pool by Expanding a ZFS pool &#8211; Itsacon&#039;s Log</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expanding a ZFS pool &#8211; Itsacon&#039;s Log</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 08:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] an earlier post, I explained how it was possible to grow a ZFS pool by replacing all disks one-by-one. In that [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Growing a ZFS pool by Itsacon</title>
		<link>http://www.itsacon.net/computers/unix/growing-a-zfs-pool/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 06:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan, you would indeed end up with 2 disks&#039; worth of parity. One in the 5x2 array, and on in the 3x3 array. They will be completely seperate vdevs, their only connection is that they&#039;re assigned to the same zpool. ZFS will automatically spread data out over both arrays, so that neither will be full while the other isn&#039;t (since that would impose a performance hit). 

This may seem a waste of space, but actually has several advantages:

- The larger the number of disks in a single array, and the larger the disks, the more realistic the chance becomes that a second disk will fail while you are rebuilding the array after replacing a disk. For this reason, many people move to RAID6 or even more parity with big disk/big array combinations.&lt;/li&gt;
- You are not limited to the size of your existing disks, and you have more granularity while upgrading. So while on a `normal&#039; raid system, you&#039;d have to grow your 5x 2TB array by adding more 2TB disks, or replacing all 5 disks with bigger ones, you can instead use whatever size and number of disks is preferable at the moment. This way, you are very flexible in the construction of your arrays. 

For example, in my main fileserver, I started with a 4x 1.5TB array. I recently had a lot of spare older disks (mostly 250GB). I added a second set of 4x 250GB. Since those are older disks, I expect them to fail at some point, and then I can either replace them with other disks I have lying around, or grow the array with newer bigger disks. Should I need more space, I can upgrade or grow with four disks at a time, instead of having to grow all disks at once. Since disks keep getting bigger and cheaper, buying only what you need now is generally a better investment.

I hope this helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you would indeed end up with 2 disks’ worth of parity. One in the 5x2 array, and on in the 3x3 array. They will be completely seperate vdevs, their only connection is that they’re assigned to the same zpool. ZFS will automatically spread data out over both arrays, so that neither will be full while the other isn’t (since that would impose a performance hit). </p>
<p>This may seem a waste of space, but actually has several advantages:</p>
<p>- The larger the number of disks in a single array, and the larger the disks, the more realistic the chance becomes that a second disk will fail while you are rebuilding the array after replacing a disk. For this reason, many people move to RAID6 or even more parity with big disk/big array combinations.<br />
– You are not limited to the size of your existing disks, and you have more granularity while upgrading. So while on a ‘normal’ raid system, you’d have to grow your 5x 2TB array by adding more 2TB disks, or replacing all 5 disks with bigger ones, you can instead use whatever size and number of disks is preferable at the moment. This way, you are very flexible in the construction of your arrays. </p>
<p>For example, in my main fileserver, I started with a 4x 1.5TB array. I recently had a lot of spare older disks (mostly 250GB). I added a second set of 4x 250GB. Since those are older disks, I expect them to fail at some point, and then I can either replace them with other disks I have lying around, or grow the array with newer bigger disks. Should I need more space, I can upgrade or grow with four disks at a time, instead of having to grow all disks at once. Since disks keep getting bigger and cheaper, buying only what you need now is generally a better investment.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Growing a ZFS pool by Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 06:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, great article. Could you please clarify the 
enlarge by &#039;adding a RAID set&#039; idea? Would I end up with raidz2? I.e., if I have a raidz1 with 5x2TB disks, then create another raidz1 with 3x3TB disks ... then somehow add that to the first pool? Doesn&#039;t that mean there are 2 disks&#039; worth of parity?
Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, great article. Could you please clarify the<br />
enlarge by ‘adding a RAID set’ idea? Would I end up with raidz2? I.e., if I have a raidz1 with 5x2TB disks, then create another raidz1 with 3x3TB disks … then somehow add that to the first pool? Doesn’t that mean there are 2 disks’ worth of parity?<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Growing a ZFS pool by Itsacon</title>
		<link>http://www.itsacon.net/computers/unix/growing-a-zfs-pool/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 06:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Technically, JBOD is possible, by just adding each disk as a seperate vdev, without specifying mirror (which is the zfs name for RAID 1), or raidz.

But JBOD will of course offer no redundancy whatsoever, and data recovery from checksum (scrubbing) will not be available. 

You could simulate some redundancy by specifying &quot;copies=2&quot; in the zfs filesystem, but this won&#039;t be as reliable, and still not support scrubbing

So using a 1TB raidz for now, and growing it in the future by replacing the 500GB disks with 2TB ones would be a better long-term strategy. Remember that it is not possible to increase the number of disks in a vdev, so once you have 3 vdevs of 1 disk, you can&#039;t replace them with other vdevs that have redundancy. You can only add new vdevs to the pool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically, JBOD is possible, by just adding each disk as a seperate vdev, without specifying mirror (which is the zfs name for RAID 1), or raidz.</p>
<p>But JBOD will of course offer no redundancy whatsoever, and data recovery from checksum (scrubbing) will not be available. </p>
<p>You could simulate some redundancy by specifying “copies=2″ in the zfs filesystem, but this won’t be as reliable, and still not support scrubbing</p>
<p>So using a 1TB raidz for now, and growing it in the future by replacing the 500GB disks with 2TB ones would be a better long-term strategy. Remember that it is not possible to increase the number of disks in a vdev, so once you have 3 vdevs of 1 disk, you can’t replace them with other vdevs that have redundancy. You can only add new vdevs to the pool.</p>
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